Frazzled UBM

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  Just seen this about the charity commission in the UK

  by ItsMyLife in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-church-allowed-convicted-3703121.

  i hope this is just the tip of the iceberg and they continue to investigate..

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  Thanks snowbird
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  Just seen this about the charity commission in the UK

  by ItsMyLife in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-church-allowed-convicted-3703121.

  i hope this is just the tip of the iceberg and they continue to investigate..

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  ItsMy Life - I was just letting you know there was another thread so you could check it out - I am not techy enough to know how to create a link to that thread in this one - perhaps use of the word 'already' may have been ill advised. Sorry, Fraz
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  Is it wrong to mock and ridicule the Watchtower Society?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.

  "it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.

  they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.

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  Cheeses said: "Its followers, beliefs and practises are all absurd, and if it weren't for the fact that they are so dangerous and destructive, their lifestyle would make for a great Monty Python script." While the Mighty Pythonites didn't mock JWs as such they certainly mocked predictions of the end of the world.
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  Elderly sister (married) says rumor is that RC talk says resurrected will be with thier mates! Poor thing.

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  87 year old sister (who's current husband, a total nazi one foot in the grave) was excited to relate that (she heard) a talk at the regional convention said a wife would be happy to meet her ressurected husband and grab him in her arms!

  she reads that as reunion of the married kind.

  she is pooping skittles she's so happy.

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  So will bigamy be allowed for widowed Witnesses who remarried?
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  Is it wrong to mock and ridicule the Watchtower Society?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.

  "it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.

  they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.

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  Voltaire was a great man. Mocking and ridiculing bombastic self-righteous hypocrisy is an imperative IMHO.
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  Just seen this about the charity commission in the UK

  by ItsMyLife in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-church-allowed-convicted-3703121.

  i hope this is just the tip of the iceberg and they continue to investigate..

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  Frazzled UBM

  There is already a thread on this topic from a few days ago
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  I Need Help Getting My Head Straight.......

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the things i have been wresting with mentally is unraveling the "us vs. them" mentality that has been driven into my skull in the organization.. i am starting this thread seeking advice on how others have come to grip with this.. this is what i struggle with:.

  i like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what i'm used to...).

  when you walk out of a convention of people dressed up, clean-cut, shaven, non-smoking, less-profanity-speaking, fairly orderly etc and see what greets you in the streets outside, it is a big contrast.. i am also still trying to understand how a religion that has conned people (so is morally wrong) could also be so well organized and have a lot of truly decent folks among their ranks.

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  Also as a lifelong worldly person who is law abiding, honest (if I see someone drop something I will go out of my way to give it back to them) and generally considerate to others and who has short hair, wears a suit to work and modest clothing of a weekend, doesn't smoke, drinks moderately and swears only occasionally, I am horrified at the ridiculous cardboard cutout image of worldly people perpetrated by the WBTS as part of its efforts to make Witnesses feel special and superior. Actually I think that the difference between that image and what my wife has observed of worldly people including me and my comments to her about how insulting the worldly people stereo-type is, have helped to stumble her.
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  I Need Help Getting My Head Straight.......

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the things i have been wresting with mentally is unraveling the "us vs. them" mentality that has been driven into my skull in the organization.. i am starting this thread seeking advice on how others have come to grip with this.. this is what i struggle with:.

  i like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what i'm used to...).

  when you walk out of a convention of people dressed up, clean-cut, shaven, non-smoking, less-profanity-speaking, fairly orderly etc and see what greets you in the streets outside, it is a big contrast.. i am also still trying to understand how a religion that has conned people (so is morally wrong) could also be so well organized and have a lot of truly decent folks among their ranks.

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  TE - Order and punctuality can be reassuring but such high control comes at a cost. Remember: Mussolini got the trains to run on time! Fraz
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  Today is Father's Day in the US

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is one of those holidays jws do not celebrate.

  there is no reason for it.

  it is not a religious holiday.

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  No Father's Day for me again this year until I visited my Mum who bought something for my son to give me. My wife is not attending the KH but old habits die-hard - she did nothing to help my son celebrate Father's Day with me. It seems that it is one thing to stop attending - it is another thing entirely to get all the BS out of her head. Maybe in time...
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  Science proves there is a God

  by seekchristonly in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  fusion with god natural .

  in the cosmos universe or whatever.

  all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.

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  Frazzled UBM

  Wow - talk about leading with one's chin! Was it bravery, foolhardiness or sheer chutzpah that inspired the OP? I skimmed page 1 and page 7 - it was pretty much as I had anticipated. Pretty much the most oxymoronic statement I have seen on JWN.